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	<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers</link>
	<description>A behind-the-scenes look at selling dropsend.com</description>
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		<title>by: barrie ontario business card printing</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-2621</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-2621</guid>
					<description>Rackspace was terrible. i will not use them again. We are in Canada and found a company in Toronto. Setup time wasn't the best. But all has been well since. We aimed for extra time. So not going to complain to much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rackspace was terrible. i will not use them again. We are in Canada and found a company in Toronto. Setup time wasn&#8217;t the best. But all has been well since. We aimed for extra time. So not going to complain to much.
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		<title>by: David Stone</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-2620</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-2620</guid>
					<description>Hi Joseph,

The issue here wasn't getting *a* environment setup (I'd done that as Ryan mentioned), it was getting the final environment setup. Also, as Ryan mentioned, &quot;a company in San Francisco&quot; do that.

Yes, I could have setup the final environment as well. However, the question isn't a technical issue. The issue is what is the best use of my time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joseph,</p>
<p>The issue here wasn&#8217;t getting *a* environment setup (I&#8217;d done that as Ryan mentioned), it was getting the final environment setup. Also, as Ryan mentioned, &#8220;a company in San Francisco&#8221; do that.</p>
<p>Yes, I could have setup the final environment as well. However, the question isn&#8217;t a technical issue. The issue is what is the best use of my time?
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		<title>by: Phil de Fontenay</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-2617</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-2617</guid>
					<description>I haven't got any reality working with the Amigo system.
What are the pluspoints with using this system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t got any reality working with the Amigo system.<br />
What are the pluspoints with using this system?
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		<title>by: joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-378</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 23:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-378</guid>
					<description>uh, why don't you just lease a server and set it/them up yourself? If you are in the web app business and don't know how to quickly take a raw Linux or Windows server and set it up for whatever dev and app environment you will need, then you aren't familiar enough with the dev/app env in the first place, which means you are in the wrong business most likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uh, why don&#8217;t you just lease a server and set it/them up yourself? If you are in the web app business and don&#8217;t know how to quickly take a raw Linux or Windows server and set it up for whatever dev and app environment you will need, then you aren&#8217;t familiar enough with the dev/app env in the first place, which means you are in the wrong business most likely.
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		<title>by: JT</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-159</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 20:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-159</guid>
					<description>Thanks Ryan :)  It looks like they do all the leg work for you as far as upgrades, subscriptions, etc.  One question:

Do you have to plan the app and build it around the payment system?  Or is it as easy as just adding a table or simple Paid/Unpaid field to the user table in the database?

Or do you think I can just build my app and worry about payment integration later?

I really think it would be great if you could dedicate a post to how you integrate this subscription system :)

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ryan :)  It looks like they do all the leg work for you as far as upgrades, subscriptions, etc.  One question:</p>
<p>Do you have to plan the app and build it around the payment system?  Or is it as easy as just adding a table or simple Paid/Unpaid field to the user table in the database?</p>
<p>Or do you think I can just build my app and worry about payment integration later?</p>
<p>I really think it would be great if you could dedicate a post to how you integrate this subscription system :)</p>
<p>Thanks!
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		<title>by: Ryan Carson</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-154</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 12:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-154</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What do you use to process payments?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.securetrading.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Secure Trading&lt;/a&gt; and their XPay module. It's great for recurring payments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What do you use to process payments?</p></blockquote>
<p>We use <a href="http://www.securetrading.com" rel="nofollow">Secure Trading</a> and their XPay module. It&#8217;s great for recurring payments.
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		<title>by: JT</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-145</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 07:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-145</guid>
					<description>What do you use to process payments?  I want to set up a monthly subscription system for my app like you.  But I don't have the know how of programming and integrating it into my app.  Is there a third party system that can easily integrate into a web app?

I've been trying to figure out how to process credit card monthly subscriptions for a while now!  Any help greatly appreciated :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you use to process payments?  I want to set up a monthly subscription system for my app like you.  But I don&#8217;t have the know how of programming and integrating it into my app.  Is there a third party system that can easily integrate into a web app?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to figure out how to process credit card monthly subscriptions for a while now!  Any help greatly appreciated :)
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		<title>by: Ryan Carson</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-130</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 08:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-130</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You’re using a single server for this app, so how do you go about securing your customers’ data on it? Will you store credit cards on it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We don't store credit card numbers on our servers. We use a third party company. It's much to dangerous to store this data ourselves.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why would you choose a data center in the Bay Area?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I've toured the data centre personally, and I was amazed with their earthquake systems.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why not use the yahoo small business setup. It’s less than a tenner a month. I know it seems like cheating but&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I'm not familiar with Yahoo Small Biz setup, but I assume it's not very configurable and that the support levels aren't very high?

&lt;blockquote&gt;I presume that for Amigo you will have an international target audience, but did you consider UK hosting? If not, why not?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We decided to co-lo at the same place where DropSend is, as we were already happy with the facility and support. Plus, it's much cheaper than hosting in the UK, as the dollar is weak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You’re using a single server for this app, so how do you go about securing your customers’ data on it? Will you store credit cards on it?</p></blockquote>
<p>We don&#8217;t store credit card numbers on our servers. We use a third party company. It&#8217;s much to dangerous to store this data ourselves.</p>
<blockquote><p>Why would you choose a data center in the Bay Area?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve toured the data centre personally, and I was amazed with their earthquake systems.</p>
<blockquote><p>Why not use the yahoo small business setup. It’s less than a tenner a month. I know it seems like cheating but</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with Yahoo Small Biz setup, but I assume it&#8217;s not very configurable and that the support levels aren&#8217;t very high?</p>
<blockquote><p>I presume that for Amigo you will have an international target audience, but did you consider UK hosting? If not, why not?</p></blockquote>
<p>We decided to co-lo at the same place where DropSend is, as we were already happy with the facility and support. Plus, it&#8217;s much cheaper than hosting in the UK, as the dollar is weak.
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		<title>by: Gillian Carson</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-120</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 08:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-120</guid>
					<description>I'll let Ryan answer that one - but I think what he will say is 'too expensive'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll let Ryan answer that one - but I think what he will say is &#8216;too expensive&#8217;.
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		<title>by: Chris Eaton</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-116</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 19:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-development/late-servers#comment-116</guid>
					<description>@ Oriol:

The project management webapp they're using is the excellent &quot;Basecamp&quot;:http://www.basecamphq.com/ from 37 Signals (the guys behind Ruby on Rails). It's free for the basic package so go and try it out. Highly recommended!

Ryan:

I presume that for Amigo you will have an international target audience, but did you consider UK hosting? If not, why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Oriol:</p>
<p>The project management webapp they&#8217;re using is the excellent &#8220;Basecamp&#8221;:http://www.basecamphq.com/ from 37 Signals (the guys behind Ruby on Rails). It&#8217;s free for the basic package so go and try it out. Highly recommended!</p>
<p>Ryan:</p>
<p>I presume that for Amigo you will have an international target audience, but did you consider UK hosting? If not, why not?
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