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	<title>Comments on: F*%@!! The trademark didn&#8217;t go through!</title>
	<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through</link>
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		<title>by: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1607</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 05:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Anyone got any ideas? Preferably something with five letters that will look good with blue… anyone?&quot;


SMURF - just kidding.  I am beginning this process myself, and am glad to witness the conversation.  Thanks everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anyone got any ideas? Preferably something with five letters that will look good with blue… anyone?&#8221;</p>
<p>SMURF - just kidding.  I am beginning this process myself, and am glad to witness the conversation.  Thanks everyone!
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		<title>by: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1600</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1600</guid>
					<description>I've been thinking about a name that could go well with both your current logo and give a hint about what your application does. How about paydirt. Hopefully it doesn't have a negative connotaction in Britain but I was thinking that your product is all about setting up a 'win win' situation for your advertisers and the newsletter people (sorry for going Tony Robbins on you). paydirt also can be associated with newsletters, albeit a possibly negative connotation.

There are several url names that are available that are like heyamigo.

Just my thoughts. Thank you for a wonderful website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about a name that could go well with both your current logo and give a hint about what your application does. How about paydirt. Hopefully it doesn&#8217;t have a negative connotaction in Britain but I was thinking that your product is all about setting up a &#8216;win win&#8217; situation for your advertisers and the newsletter people (sorry for going Tony Robbins on you). paydirt also can be associated with newsletters, albeit a possibly negative connotation.</p>
<p>There are several url names that are available that are like heyamigo.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts. Thank you for a wonderful website.
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		<title>by: Clayton Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1582</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1582</guid>
					<description>If you're seriously looking into a name change the word &quot;omega&quot; has some interesting definitions

http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+omega

And (this may have unfortunate consequences in the TM application) looks like amigo


Clayton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re seriously looking into a name change the word &#8220;omega&#8221; has some interesting definitions</p>
<p><a href='http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+omega' rel='nofollow'>http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+omega</a></p>
<p>And (this may have unfortunate consequences in the TM application) looks like amigo</p>
<p>Clayton
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		<title>by: Clayton Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1581</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1581</guid>
					<description>Are you being forced to apply in the &quot;software&quot; category?

The software you are developing &quot;enables&quot; and is a key competitive advantage but the real service you are offering is connecting publishers and advertisers, which seems to be more in the publishing industry. 

Is there not another category you could subit into?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you being forced to apply in the &#8220;software&#8221; category?</p>
<p>The software you are developing &#8220;enables&#8221; and is a key competitive advantage but the real service you are offering is connecting publishers and advertisers, which seems to be more in the publishing industry. </p>
<p>Is there not another category you could subit into?
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		<title>by: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1574</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1574</guid>
					<description>TM applications in this country can be difficult. However, your appeal meeting is a good opportunity to persuade them. However, even if it does go through to being advertised you still have the problem that an existing TM holder could object.

The other avenue to consider is a EU / Community Trademark (CTM). They cost more and take longer, but they can be less strict than the UK tm procedure.

The important issue is the filing date, as long as it is accepted in the end your protection effectively starts from the filing date, as you have priority over later applications.

The other way to look at it is the name. It is obvious and is used by other companies for unrelated products. 

How about a new name which tells customers what the service does or an abbreviation of a core aspect of the service?

How about having a competition - enough creative people read this blog (me excluded) !

The competition could be another way to raise pre-launch awareness.

We came up with a name (Dexmo) for a new site we are launching (hopefully soon). It took ages and we checked domain names, did TM searches, checked company names and googled it to make sure we could secure all the rights in one go.

We got a letter from the UK TM people today to say our name can go through to the advertising stage. But, that was after they objected to some of the descriptions we put in the Classes. But, a phone call sorted it out.

OK this may be crap - forgive me:

&quot;newzletta&quot;
&quot;letteradz&quot;
&quot;letterads&quot;

A sort of &quot;z&quot; thing going on instead of the &quot;r&quot; from flickr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TM applications in this country can be difficult. However, your appeal meeting is a good opportunity to persuade them. However, even if it does go through to being advertised you still have the problem that an existing TM holder could object.</p>
<p>The other avenue to consider is a EU / Community Trademark (CTM). They cost more and take longer, but they can be less strict than the UK tm procedure.</p>
<p>The important issue is the filing date, as long as it is accepted in the end your protection effectively starts from the filing date, as you have priority over later applications.</p>
<p>The other way to look at it is the name. It is obvious and is used by other companies for unrelated products. </p>
<p>How about a new name which tells customers what the service does or an abbreviation of a core aspect of the service?</p>
<p>How about having a competition - enough creative people read this blog (me excluded) !</p>
<p>The competition could be another way to raise pre-launch awareness.</p>
<p>We came up with a name (Dexmo) for a new site we are launching (hopefully soon). It took ages and we checked domain names, did TM searches, checked company names and googled it to make sure we could secure all the rights in one go.</p>
<p>We got a letter from the UK TM people today to say our name can go through to the advertising stage. But, that was after they objected to some of the descriptions we put in the Classes. But, a phone call sorted it out.</p>
<p>OK this may be crap - forgive me:</p>
<p>&#8220;newzletta&#8221;<br />
&#8220;letteradz&#8221;<br />
&#8220;letterads&#8221;</p>
<p>A sort of &#8220;z&#8221; thing going on instead of the &#8220;r&#8221; from flickr.
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		<title>by: stef</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1573</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Amigos? After all your are dealing With multiple publishers and advertisers ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amigos? After all your are dealing With multiple publishers and advertisers &#8230;
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		<title>by: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1561</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1561</guid>
					<description>Well, since Rogers Wireless and Carson Systems are in two *completely* different industries, I don't think that would be a conflict.

I think the problem is that there are computer software companies using the trademark &quot;Amigo.&quot; It may be in a different specialization, but its still close enough to cause problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since Rogers Wireless and Carson Systems are in two *completely* different industries, I don&#8217;t think that would be a conflict.</p>
<p>I think the problem is that there are computer software companies using the trademark &#8220;Amigo.&#8221; It may be in a different specialization, but its still close enough to cause problems.
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		<title>by: Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1551</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>And if you wanna stick the Mexican friend thing, there's always..

compadre
hermano
hombre
esé</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you wanna stick the Mexican friend thing, there&#8217;s always..</p>
<p>compadre<br />
hermano<br />
hombre<br />
esé
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		<title>by: Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1522</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 02:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1522</guid>
					<description>Okay, the only thing similar with that logo is.. well, the word &quot;amigo.&quot; And that's Canada, not UK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, the only thing similar with that logo is.. well, the word &#8220;amigo.&#8221; And that&#8217;s Canada, not UK
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		<title>by: Sheldon Kotyk</title>
		<link>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1519</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 21:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.barenakedapp.com/the-logo/f-the-trademark-didnt-go-through#comment-1519</guid>
					<description>If you guys care what their logo looked like, here it is.

http://www.kotyk.com/images/amigo.gif

Note: I said it looks a little like what you did, not identicle or anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you guys care what their logo looked like, here it is.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.kotyk.com/images/amigo.gif' rel='nofollow'>http://www.kotyk.com/images/amigo.gif</a></p>
<p>Note: I said it looks a little like what you did, not identicle or anything.
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